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  1. Jeff_White December 10, 2012 at 10:32 am |

    So it seems the answer to the title question is “No”.

    1. ConsumerTrap December 10, 2012 at 1:22 pm |

      Personally, this seems uncontroversial to me. This is the biggest of big-time stuff, with about as much momentum as any ruling institution could have these days, and tar sands issues are, truth be told, perceptually both remote from and utterly vital to (both in the worst combination) people’s day-to-day lives. I can’t imagine a scenario in which enough people become angry enough to start a social movement against this process.

      I’m not opposed to continuing to work on the topic as part of something bigger, but my own view is that we need to explain the futility and danger of the end uses (primarily cars and cars-first cities)that draw out the tar sands, and work toward a larger movement for ecological reconstruction.

      IMHO, these sands are getting mined unless and until we can intervene in the structure of demand.

      1. Jeff_White December 10, 2012 at 1:47 pm |

        Once again, I’m calling bullshit on the idea that the best strategy to defeat oil industry expansionism is to tell people not to drive cars.

        1. ConsumerTrap December 10, 2012 at 6:06 pm |

          “Calling bullshit?” This is a question of organizing and strategy, not a math test or a trivia question.

          Meanwhile, I’m not arguing that we “tell people not to drive cars.” I’m arguing in favor of arguing for renewal and expansion of public transportation, railroads, bikes-only streets, and reconstruction of the society to make it sustainable. Stefan Kipfer’s piece from a couple days ago is along the lines I favor.

          It’s a strategic disagreement, Jeff. These things happen.

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