Comments on: Hugo Blanco on the Massacre at Bagua http://climateandcapitalism.com/?p=871 Ecosocialism or Barbarism: There is no third way Tue, 07 Sep 2010 09:56:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Derek Wall http://climateandcapitalism.com/?p=871&cpage=1#comment-6405 Derek Wall Sun, 26 Jul 2009 22:19:19 +0000 http://climateandcapitalism.com/?p=871#comment-6405 The indigenous were defending their land at Bagua, after several hundred years of having it stolen, their organisation is democratic and they have a healthy self interest in not having their land sold cheaply to oil corporations. They also have a strong unselfish interest in defending the Amazon for all of us. Right across the world indigenous people defend the environment and are beaten, killed and slandered for doing so The indigenous were defending their land at Bagua, after several hundred years of having it stolen, their organisation is democratic and they have a healthy self interest in not having their land sold cheaply to oil corporations.

They also have a strong unselfish interest in defending the Amazon for all of us.

Right across the world indigenous people defend the environment and are beaten, killed and slandered for doing so

]]> By: Gabriella http://climateandcapitalism.com/?p=871&cpage=1#comment-6403 Gabriella Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:57:46 +0000 http://climateandcapitalism.com/?p=871#comment-6403 I agree with the first parts, that the indigenous people have to be better understood and that the government has not done a good job at protecting their interests and at trying to push development at the same time as indigenous land is protected. But to portray the events of June 5 as a strike against the indigenous.. this sounds as if they had been sleeping in their homes and been surprised by the attack. For days groups of "indigenous", whom i would guess were lead by some leaders who are also corrupted and looking after their own interests, something quite common in Peru, and were causing blockades and had arms and were putting those innocent passers-by in danger. That was crossing the line. I agree that the indigenous groupings have a lot to protest about. But they are also being misled by this so-called "leaders" who take advantage of the indigenous' lack of representation and education and only look for their own benefit. The article here lacks to portray that, and ends up being too biased to be helpful in portraying the real issues. I agree with the first parts, that the indigenous people have to be better understood and that the government has not done a good job at protecting their interests and at trying to push development at the same time as indigenous land is protected.
But to portray the events of June 5 as a strike against the indigenous.. this sounds as if they had been sleeping in their homes and been surprised by the attack. For days groups of “indigenous”, whom i would guess were lead by some leaders who are also corrupted and looking after their own interests, something quite common in Peru, and were causing blockades and had arms and were putting those innocent passers-by in danger. That was crossing the line. I agree that the indigenous groupings have a lot to protest about. But they are also being misled by this so-called “leaders” who take advantage of the indigenous’ lack of representation and education and only look for their own benefit.
The article here lacks to portray that, and ends up being too biased to be helpful in portraying the real issues.

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