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  1. Mark C December 18, 2012 at 11:07 pm |

    Great talk! Thanks for posting!

  2. Ian Angus December 18, 2012 at 6:48 pm |

    So what’s your point? Are you telling us that that C&C should never post anything that reflects the actual views of people engaged in real struggles? That the struggles of first nations against assaults on their land are illegitimate because they may have illusions about capitalism? That they shouldn’t find whatever allies they can? That oppressed nations shouldn’t have an absolute right to try to work out how their land and resources can be used to help them break out of poverty? That we shouldn’t support anything that isn’t the purest of pure?

    As Lenin wrote: “Whoever expects a ‘pure’ social revolution will never live to see it. Such a person pays lip-service to revolution without understanding what revolution is.”

  3. T B December 18, 2012 at 6:34 pm |

    This part is worth highlighting, on an anti-capitalist web site –
    “We took a look behind us and here’s the industry, who in the meantime
    were wanting to log and do different things, and we basically thought,
    well let’s check and see if these guys want to be a part of this,
    because now we’re a pretty formidable force and they aren’t going to
    have much success unless they work with us. So we talked to industry and
    they said, “By all means,” They put their hands up and said, “We’re
    with you. We support you. We recognize you as a government and we want
    to help do a plan for what happens in this region as well.”

    1. T B December 18, 2012 at 6:37 pm |

      The use of the phrase “natural capital” also is noteworthy, given how it suggests that nature always must be commodified:

      “we did a plan that determined what the economy was going to look like
      in the region; that it was going to be based on the natural capital that
      comes out of there. However many trees grow in a year that could be
      sustained, that’s how much we would cut. However many salmon we could
      fish in a year and sustain, that’s how much we would fish. So all of
      those resources, halibut, black cod, crab, shrimp, and everything that’s
      in the region all got put into this plan.We decided to work together on

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